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norsman · #1 · msg 2187
2014-10-29 01:40
sheiko app
So it's coming soon but is there a ballpark idea? Before new year? Within next month?
Robert Frederick · #2 · msg 2188
2014-10-29 05:41
Re: sheiko app
Quote from: norsman on October 29, 2014, 01:40:07 AM
So it's coming soon but is there a ballpark idea? Before new year? Within next month?

Should be out in the next few weeks.
JJ · #3 · msg 2193
2014-10-30 00:02
Re: sheiko app
excellent, i had sheikodroid on my old phone but it doesnt work on my samsungs5

will the new one have the over 80kg prog on it ?
Robert Frederick · #4 · msg 2228
2014-10-31 15:44
Re: sheiko app
There are several new programs on there that Boris made specifically for the app.
JJ · #5 · msg 2230
2014-10-31 22:59
Re: sheiko app
superb :)
Dave · #6 · msg 2231
2014-11-01 07:33
Re: sheiko app
I want this NOW, if not sooner.
Dave · #7 · msg 2308
2014-11-15 13:20
Re: sheiko app
??!!!?!?!
Robert Frederick · #8 · msg 2309
2014-11-15 15:46
Re: sheiko app
Probably next weekend.
norsman · #9 · msg 2312
2014-11-16 02:19
Re: sheiko app
awesome, the other day i had to call my wife who was at home to pull up the spreadsheet and text my workout to me! ha
Robert Frederick · #10 · msg 2318
2014-11-16 19:47
Re: sheiko app
Quote from: norsman on November 16, 2014, 02:19:49 AM
awesome, the other day i had to call my wife who was at home to pull up the spreadsheet and text my workout to me! ha

I've forgotten to take a picture of my excel file and remembered in the car half-way to the gym a few times.
Dave · #11 · msg 2321
2014-11-17 11:06
Re: sheiko app
Quote from: Robert Frederick on November 16, 2014, 07:47:04 PM
Quote from: norsman on November 16, 2014, 02:19:49 AM
awesome, the other day i had to call my wife who was at home to pull up the spreadsheet and text my workout to me! ha

I've forgotten to take a picture of my excel file and remembered in the car half-way to the gym a few times.

Spreadsheet on phone FTW.

Will the app bring out any new bench only material?
Chreiz · #12 · msg 2322
2014-11-17 12:14
Re: sheiko app
Am i the only one with a good enough memory to remember the whole workouts  :P?
RussianBear · #13 · msg 2324
2014-11-17 23:01
Re: sheiko app
Really looking forward to it.

In the moment I have a printout (i usually have) and have it saved at my smartphone. I am not going to forget my programme - that's for sure!
Robert Frederick · #14 · msg 2326
2014-11-18 04:56
Re: sheiko app
Quote from: Dave on November 17, 2014, 11:06:34 AM
Quote from: Robert Frederick on November 16, 2014, 07:47:04 PM
Quote from: norsman on November 16, 2014, 02:19:49 AM
awesome, the other day i had to call my wife who was at home to pull up the spreadsheet and text my workout to me! ha

I've forgotten to take a picture of my excel file and remembered in the car half-way to the gym a few times.

Spreadsheet on phone FTW.

Will the app bring out any new bench only material?

There aren't any single lift specialty programs yet. There are lots of things that we'd like to add but there would be no app to release if we waited until it had everything already. This one is 1.0 and there will be upgrades.
LeftoverCrack · #15 · msg 2327
2014-11-18 12:31
Re: sheiko app
Will the app be released for iOS, Android or both?
SUBZ · #16 · msg 2328
2014-11-18 18:58
Re: sheiko app
Why don't you just use the excel programs on the forum and an excel reader on your phone? Works great ;)
danjh2705 · #17 · msg 2331
2014-11-18 22:33
Re: sheiko app
I export pages 12-14  i.e the 3 cycles as a pdf file to my phone using Dropbox sync and use Adobe to open it.
Only have to do it once in 12-20 weeks!
Robert Frederick · #18 · msg 2335
2014-11-20 14:27
Re: sheiko app
The app will be a bit more friendly to use than the spreadsheets. Modifications are easier, you can add notes easily during the workout for each lift, watch video demonstrations of special exercises, and so on. This is also only the first incarnation. A lot more is possible now that we all carry computers in our pockets. This is going to get really good.
Dingle · #19 · msg 2340
2014-11-20 22:35
Re: sheiko app
Just got the app! looks awesome cant wait to put it to good use after Oceanias! One thing that I have picked up on so far is the minimum % is 50% so when I go to adapt the advanced maximum load for example and I want to make one of the squats into from squats It means I have to start at 50%.

Should you possibly make a App suggestions or problems thread also just an idea.

Love your work.
Robert Frederick · #20 · msg 2341
2014-11-21 03:07
Re: sheiko app
Quote from: Dingle on November 20, 2014, 10:35:09 PM
Just got the app! looks awesome cant wait to put it to good use after Oceanias! One thing that I have picked up on so far is the minimum % is 50% so when I go to adapt the advanced maximum load for example and I want to make one of the squats into from squats It means I have to start at 50%.

Should you possibly make a App suggestions or problems thread also just an idea.

Love your work.

You're right. There's two new boards now. One for requests and another for app issues. If you wouldn't mind posting about percents and anything else you encounter over there it would be great. That way I have my to-do list all in one place.

Thanks and good luck at Oceanias!
JJ · #21 · msg 2345
2014-11-21 18:20
Re: sheiko app
I cant find it on android only the old version, is it a different name?
Robert Frederick · #22 · msg 2347
2014-11-21 18:47
Re: sheiko app
Quote from: JJ on November 21, 2014, 06:20:04 PM
I cant find it on android only the old version, is it a different name?

It's only on iOS right now.
JJ · #23 · msg 2348
2014-11-21 18:52
Re: sheiko app
Quote from: Robert Frederick on November 21, 2014, 06:47:41 PM
Quote from: JJ on November 21, 2014, 06:20:04 PM
I cant find it on android only the old version, is it a different name?

It's only on iOS right now.

arghhhh , just as I changed from iphone to android lol
JJ · #24 · msg 2349
2014-11-21 19:28
Re: sheiko app
is there a date for android release?
Robert Frederick · #25 · msg 2350
2014-11-21 19:34
Re: sheiko app
Quote from: JJ on November 21, 2014, 07:28:29 PM
is there a date for android release?

Not yet. It'll probably be a while.
ZR · #26 · msg 2351
2014-11-21 22:38
Re: sheiko app
What did you use to build the app with? I might be able to give you a hand in porting it to droid/windows if you'd like.
JJ · #27 · msg 2354
2014-11-21 23:52
Re: sheiko app
cant believe its not on android i been looking forward to it for weeks  :-[
Robert Frederick · #28 · msg 2357
2014-11-22 03:16
Re: sheiko app
Quote from: ZR on November 21, 2014, 10:38:52 PM
What did you use to build the app with? I might be able to give you a hand in porting it to droid/windows if you'd like.

Objective C. I've looked into porting services. But since I used about two dozen libraries it's not so straight forward.
norsman · #29 · msg 2373
2014-11-22 23:22
Re: sheiko app
Quote from: JJ on November 21, 2014, 11:52:04 PM
cant believe its not on android i been looking forward to it for weeks  :-[

I know...just got rid of an ipod touch that i had so that i could access all sorts fo things and not be limited. Video editing software is crap on android for example.

I might get an iphone 4s as a beater phone to use this.

Will this be compatible with a 4s?
Robert Frederick · #30 · msg 2389
2014-11-23 17:51
Re: sheiko app
It is but might be a bit more sluggish.
norsman · #31 · msg 2808
2015-01-03 00:14
Re: sheiko app
The universal 4 day seems to correspond exactly to the medium load advanced on the app. However i'm on prep 2 week 5 day 4 and the third exercise calls for "Deadlift w/chains off boxes, bar is 10-12cm below knees" on the spreadsheet but the app just says deadlift with chains.

Did the app just not transfer over precisely or is it a mistake in the spreadsheet? Deadlifting with chains off blocks did seem a bit strange.  12cm below knee is roughly where the bar would normally be i think...
Robert Frederick · #32 · msg 2810
2015-01-03 15:51
Re: sheiko app
It should be w/chain off blocks but the title bar doesn't have enough space to write it all out so it changed for the app.
JJ · #33 · msg 3235
2015-02-09 20:39
Re: sheiko app
any date yet for android?
Robert Frederick · #34 · msg 3241
2015-02-10 06:30
Re: sheiko app
Don't know the exact date yet but it's in beta testing now.
Blitzball · #35 · msg 3332
2015-02-18 12:11
Re: sheiko app
Is there going to be any difference between the iphone one and the android one? I mean besides the operating platform.
Robert Frederick · #36 · msg 3333
2015-02-18 14:19
Re: sheiko app
There are a few differences but the programs and example videos are the same.
SUBZ · #37 · msg 3411
2015-02-28 11:40
Re: sheiko app
Would really like to try out the app for android. Is there a way to become a beta tester? :)
Robert Frederick · #38 · msg 3413
2015-02-28 16:37
Re: sheiko app
You can download it tomorrow.  :o
JJ · #39 · msg 3417
2015-02-28 22:28
Re: sheiko app
yes!!  8)
JJ · #40 · msg 3419
2015-03-01 01:02
Re: sheiko app
there is a bug when opening the app , you need to press back for it to start up.

question regards programs , they are named program 1 , program 2 etc etc , is there a quick way to determine what is which ? like 37 , 32 etc ?

looks good
Galactus · #41 · msg 3421
2015-03-01 03:20
Re: sheiko app
Quote from: Robert Frederick on February 28, 2015, 04:37:28 PM
You can download it tomorrow.  :o

Just to be sure is it:

Sheiko Powerlifting Training
pushApp Srl
£8.70

Right?
Robert Frederick · #42 · msg 3422
2015-03-01 03:25
Re: sheiko app
Yup
Galactus · #43 · msg 3423
2015-03-01 03:33
Re: sheiko app
Just bought it.
JJ · #44 · msg 3424
2015-03-01 03:43
Re: sheiko app
how is working for you?
Galactus · #45 · msg 3425
2015-03-01 03:49
Re: sheiko app
Quote from: JJ on March 01, 2015, 03:43:58 AM
how is working for you?

It's definitely a work in progress, most features are buggy. At the moment it's not much more than the training programs as noninteractive pictures. But I'm hoping the functionality will be improved in incoming updates.

mava · #46 · msg 3426
2015-03-01 14:02
Re: sheiko app
Hello!

I just downloaded the sheiko app. Which order should I do the porgrams in?

My 1RM: s:120kg, bp:110kg, dl:160kg
187cm and 82kg
Robert Frederick · #47 · msg 3427
2015-03-01 15:20
Re: sheiko app
Just based on your number I would suggest the large load intermediate cycles. Make sure to consume a caloric excess as well through the cycles.
Galactus · #48 · msg 3428
2015-03-01 15:21
Re: sheiko app
Quote from: Galactus on March 01, 2015, 03:49:30 AM
Quote from: JJ on March 01, 2015, 03:43:58 AM
how is working for you?

It's definitely a work in progress, most features are buggy. At the moment it's not much more than the training programs as noninteractive pictures. But I'm hoping the functionality will be improved in incoming updates.

Actually I've had a more in depth look, the routines allow you to work through each session and each set. I'm not sure if you can adjust the sets/reps say for example if you didn't make the reps that day.

I've seen the customisation option for producing your own routines based off one of your choice that looks good.

What I'd like to see is

1) Some explanation of the programs, who are they aimed at, what do they even mean in specific terms (small/medium load etc). A tutorial section built into the App would make sense given that it is supposed to be used mostly in isolation from online spreadsheets etc

2) Creating my own profile, seems to be in the works already.

3) Ability to delete custom routines which I've made during testing the App.

4) The "can't download because you haven't paid" bug gone and a smoother entry screen.

5) Ability to change the program on the fly, during the session if something isn't feeling right there should be the ability to adjust sets/reps or delete a set etc

All in all I'm very happy to support this forum and Sheiko as he's given me and PL a lot over the years so I've bought the App. Please take my pointers as constructive not criticism.
JJ · #49 · msg 3434
2015-03-01 23:37
Re: sheiko app
just had an update there and it opens fine now :D

still trying to figure out what program is which
Galactus · #50 · msg 3435
2015-03-02 01:01
Re: sheiko app
Quote from: JJ on March 01, 2015, 11:37:54 PM
just had an update there and it opens fine now :D

still trying to figure out what program is which

Yes good call, downloaded that too.

I think some further information on each program would be helpful.
Robert Frederick · #51 · msg 3436
2015-03-02 04:23
Re: sheiko app
So the programs are sorted by volume. Check this to see the volume/experience relationship:
http://sheiko-program.ru/forum/index.php?topic=311.0

Now experience is not how many years training but is instead accomplishment based. Check this to see your level:
http://sheiko-program.ru/forum/index.php?topic=3.0

A good general approach is to start with medium load and see how that works for you. From there it should be easy to tell if you need to adjust volume up or down.
Galactus · #52 · msg 3444
2015-03-02 13:23
Re: sheiko app
Quote from: Robert Frederick on March 02, 2015, 04:23:53 AM
So the programs are sorted by volume. Check this to see the volume/experience relationship:
http://sheiko-program.ru/forum/index.php?topic=311.0

Now experience is not how many years training but is instead accomplishment based. Check this to see your level:
http://sheiko-program.ru/forum/index.php?topic=3.0

A good general approach is to start with medium load and see how that works for you. From there it should be easy to tell if you need to adjust volume up or down.


Robert,

I'm just coming back from injury and time off, I'm at about 180/140/220. Previously 225/170/280. At 93kg raw.

What would you recommend?
Robert Frederick · #53 · msg 3445
2015-03-02 14:40
Re: sheiko app
In your case you would expect to need some time to ramp up volume and for your maxes to come back at a decent pace in the process. I'd do a few beginner cycles since they are low volume and you test your maxes more frequently. It would seem to match up with your current needs.
Galactus · #54 · msg 3447
2015-03-02 16:38
Re: sheiko app
Quote from: Robert Frederick on March 02, 2015, 02:40:22 PM
In your case you would expect to need some time to ramp up volume and for your maxes to come back at a decent pace in the process. I'd do a few beginner cycles since they are low volume and you test your maxes more frequently. It would seem to match up with your current needs.

Thank you Robert.
Robert Frederick · #55 · msg 3450
2015-03-02 18:19
Re: sheiko app
Sure.  ;)

I like to think of the programs like tools that can be used in many ways. I think Boris does as well. He's previously advised that he hopes people would use his programs creatively.
Galactus · #56 · msg 3454
2015-03-02 20:27
Re: sheiko app
Quote from: Robert Frederick on March 02, 2015, 06:19:58 PM
Sure.  ;)

I like to think of the programs like tools that can be used in many ways. I think Boris does as well. He's previously advised that he hopes people would use his programs creatively.

I generally respond better to high reps and lower intensities, I have been tempted to run a program using Boris' templates but substituting perhaps 3 reps for every 5% reduced.

So for example:

4 sets of 5 @ 75% would become 4 sets of 8 at 70%

The reason I picked 3 reps for every 5% is that generally that is how my reps to percentages work out in relevant intensity ranges (70-100). For example I generally know that 90-93% is my 3RM, 85-87 is my 5RM and 80-83% is my 8RM.

Just something I'm considering, any thoughts appreciated.
Robert Frederick · #57 · msg 3465
2015-03-03 12:22
Re: sheiko app
Can you outline a sample day?
Luigi Papino · #58 · msg 3468
2015-03-03 13:53
Re: sheiko app
Quote from: Galactus on March 01, 2015, 03:49:30 AM
Quote from: JJ on March 01, 2015, 03:43:58 AM
how is working for you?

It's definitely a work in progress, most features are buggy. At the moment it's not much more than the training programs as noninteractive pictures. But I'm hoping the functionality will be improved in incoming updates.
I guess I do not understand: why do you say that most of the features are buggy?
What problems are you having?

The training programs are not "non-interactive images", in fact you can create custom programs and change them to your liking.

Edit: I see now your next post. Yes they are all feature in my TODO list for the next release
Last edit: 2015-03-03 13:56
Galactus · #59 · msg 3471
2015-03-03 14:55
Re: sheiko app
Quote from: Robert Frederick on March 03, 2015, 12:22:46 PM
Can you outline a sample day?

So for example let's look at Week 1, Day 1 of the 4 Day Program. Currently using an imaginary SQ/BP maxes of 100kg it is:

Front SQ: 30kg x 4, 40kg x 4, 50kg x 4, 4, 4
Bench Press: 50kg x 5, 60kg x 4, 70kg x 3, 75kg x 2, 2, 2, 2
Squat: 55kg x 3, 65kg x 3, 75kg x 2, 2, 2, 2

If we were to apply the intensity decrease and reps increase it would become:

Front SQ: 25kg x 7, 35kg x 7, 45kg x 7, 7, 7
Bench Press: 45kg x 8, 55kg x 7, 65kg x 6, 70kg x 5, 5, 5, 5
Squat: 50kg x 6, 60kg x 6, 70kg x 5, 5, 5, 5

I do respond better to higher reps and lower intensities, on paper this actually looks like something I would respond to. I would like to get some feedback on it though, for example when the percentages get higher like 85+ would I be better off adding a different number of reps perhaps fewer like 2?

Thanks.
power gym · #60 · msg 3472
2015-03-03 16:19
Re: sheiko app
the app for android don't  go
alway crash
Robert Frederick · #61 · msg 3474
2015-03-03 18:37
Re: sheiko app
Quote from: Galactus on March 03, 2015, 02:55:59 PM
Quote from: Robert Frederick on March 03, 2015, 12:22:46 PM
Can you outline a sample day?

So for example let's look at Week 1, Day 1 of the 4 Day Program. Currently using an imaginary SQ/BP maxes of 100kg it is:

Front SQ: 30kg x 4, 40kg x 4, 50kg x 4, 4, 4
Bench Press: 50kg x 5, 60kg x 4, 70kg x 3, 75kg x 2, 2, 2, 2
Squat: 55kg x 3, 65kg x 3, 75kg x 2, 2, 2, 2

If we were to apply the intensity decrease and reps increase it would become:

Front SQ: 25kg x 7, 35kg x 7, 45kg x 7, 7, 7
Bench Press: 45kg x 8, 55kg x 7, 65kg x 6, 70kg x 5, 5, 5, 5
Squat: 50kg x 6, 60kg x 6, 70kg x 5, 5, 5, 5

I do respond better to higher reps and lower intensities, on paper this actually looks like something I would respond to. I would like to get some feedback on it though, for example when the percentages get higher like 85+ would I be better off adding a different number of reps perhaps fewer like 2?

Thanks.

Ultimately, do whatever works. Personally I'd keep the percentages as they are and adjust the reps since it's far simpler. But I can't really say anything if what you do works. I've found that you can play around with the rep ranges a bit and still do the exact same style of training as long as you don't go beyond 3 reps shy of failure. So if you fail on the 12th rep at 70%, you could do sets of 8-9, 4-5 @ 80% and so on.
Galactus · #62 · msg 3479
2015-03-03 21:59
Re: sheiko app
Quote from: Robert Frederick on March 03, 2015, 06:37:17 PM
Quote from: Galactus on March 03, 2015, 02:55:59 PM
Quote from: Robert Frederick on March 03, 2015, 12:22:46 PM
Can you outline a sample day?

So for example let's look at Week 1, Day 1 of the 4 Day Program. Currently using an imaginary SQ/BP maxes of 100kg it is:

Front SQ: 30kg x 4, 40kg x 4, 50kg x 4, 4, 4
Bench Press: 50kg x 5, 60kg x 4, 70kg x 3, 75kg x 2, 2, 2, 2
Squat: 55kg x 3, 65kg x 3, 75kg x 2, 2, 2, 2

If we were to apply the intensity decrease and reps increase it would become:

Front SQ: 25kg x 7, 35kg x 7, 45kg x 7, 7, 7
Bench Press: 45kg x 8, 55kg x 7, 65kg x 6, 70kg x 5, 5, 5, 5
Squat: 50kg x 6, 60kg x 6, 70kg x 5, 5, 5, 5

I do respond better to higher reps and lower intensities, on paper this actually looks like something I would respond to. I would like to get some feedback on it though, for example when the percentages get higher like 85+ would I be better off adding a different number of reps perhaps fewer like 2?

Thanks.

Ultimately, do whatever works. Personally I'd keep the percentages as they are and adjust the reps since it's far simpler. But I can't really say anything if what you do works. I've found that you can play around with the rep ranges a bit and still do the exact same style of training as long as you don't go beyond 3 reps shy of failure. So if you fail on the 12th rep at 70%, you could do sets of 8-9, 4-5 @ 80% and so on.

Yes that's good input, keeping it almost on an RPE type of thing (although I've never done it that way) but just to keep a few in the tank.

I find I tend to overdo things quite quickly, and since I'm a little older now, I thought reducing the intensity to match the increased volume may be a sensible route. But yes, whatever works. I will have to actually experiment in the gym and not just on paper!
stt816 · #63 · msg 3637
2015-03-28 20:44
Re: sheiko app
Robert I'm 145 body weight current lifts are
S340
B230
D475

What would you suggest doing on the app at first all are in lbs...coming from candito 6 week program

Last edit: 2015-03-29 15:05
lanidrac · #64 · msg 3638
2015-03-28 22:01
Re: sheiko app
Has anyone else had a hard time purchasing this app from the google play store? Every time I try to purchase it and click to pay with paypal it tells me that an error has occured.
Robert Frederick · #65 · msg 3642
2015-03-29 15:05
Re: sheiko app
Quote from: lanidrac on March 28, 2015, 10:01:17 PM
Has anyone else had a hard time purchasing this app from the google play store? Every time I try to purchase it and click to pay with paypal it tells me that an error has occured.

First that I've heard about it.
Robert Frederick · #66 · msg 3643
2015-03-29 15:06
Re: sheiko app
Quote from: stt816 on March 28, 2015, 08:44:51 PM
Robert I'm 145 body weight current lifts are
S340
B230
D475

What would you suggest doing on the app at first all are in lbs...coming from candito 6 week program

Try the medium load 4-day program and see how it goes for you.
Luigi Papino · #67 · msg 3653
2015-03-30 15:04
Re: sheiko app
Quote from: lanidrac on March 28, 2015, 10:01:17 PM
Has anyone else had a hard time purchasing this app from the google play store? Every time I try to purchase it and click to pay with paypal it tells me that an error has occured.

Any further detail on error?
Maybe just a temporary error with Play store?

You can try to purchase form a desktop pc and then download from smartphone
stt816 · #68 · msg 3722
2015-04-10 07:03
Re: sheiko app
cannot speak on the purchasing of the app on the play store, however I do have the app.

It is buggy at times and needs work. Definitely not as nice as the iOS app. Needs updates to be good
Luigi Papino · #69 · msg 3723
2015-04-10 10:16
Re: sheiko app
Today I just started to fix it :)
Next week will be dedicated entirely on Sheiko app
georgeslaraque · #70 · msg 3724
2015-04-11 02:05
Re: sheiko app
To be honest, I fucking love the app.
JJ · #71 · msg 4406
2015-07-06 01:25
Re: sheiko app
small bug ( app stopped) on the android app when you try to rename the prep/comp cycles.

I title mine in months so they go to the top of the programs and quicker to use.