Frequency for squat and deadlift.

Hello.
I have two norweigen lifters in my club and they both follow Dietmar programs ( the coach of Norway).
In Dietmars programs you squat, bench and deadlift (variations) almost every session. And in the Sheiko programs I have seen you squat twice à week. Even  do its a far amount of volym that it would be possible to spread it out during more sessions. Its even more obvious when you look at the deadlift that is one or two day sa week.
So whats the general thoughts on that?

/martin

Hi Martin, yes Dietmar schedules have variations of the three bigs each day. In Sheiko protocol you won't find it. It is quite unusual to have two different stressors for lower body in the same session. But in terms of volume you will have an amount appropriate for the athlete qualification.
A MSIC can squat several times per week reaching a huge volume. An intermediate lifter usually makes 2-3 squats / week. Also Sheiko changes sessions week per week in order to have different overloads and to cause a better improvement and recovery.

That's a nice question.

The frequency in squat is a big metter in my opinion. To have such a high frequent training you need to adapt your plan, and the choice of exercise.

Not by chance, Wolf uses a lot of variation, as you said before.
In my modest opinion, a lifter could squat 3 days a week even in Sheyko style training. Probably not 3 day with gear (suit and wraps) but adding a lighter squat on wednsday, could be good. Maybe?

Every single program has the right to exist if people using them are growing and winning at high level competitions. Wolf has some World Champions. It means that his programs are not bad.

As for me I don't like to do all three main movements in one day. I don't put the squat and deadlift in one day. I think that doing the deadlift after squats can lead to injury and vice versa. I prescribe the bench press more often because the arm muscles are smaller/less than lat and leg muscle, so they recover faster.

If you do squat+benchpress+deadlift every workout what about additional exercises then?

Every single program has the right to exist if people using them are growing and winning at high level competitions. Wolf has some World Champions. It means that his programs are not bad.

Those are good points.

As for me I don't like to do all three main movements in one day. I don't put the squat and deadlift in one day. I think that doing the deadlift after squats can lead to injury and vice versa. I prescribe the bench press more often because the arm muscles are smaller/less than lat and leg muscle, so they recover faster.

I can see your reasoning as far as the benchpressing frequency goes but, in your view, do you think we risk injuries combining the squat with the deadlift in the same session?

I can see your reasoning as far as the benchpressing frequency goes but, in your view, do you think we risk injuries combining the squat with the deadlift in the same session?

That's what he said already.

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I can see your reasoning as far as the benchpressing frequency goes but, in your view, do you think we risk injuries combining the squat with the deadlift in the same session?

That's what he said already.

I left out a "why" accidentally. I was asking him *why* he would think that is so.