Sheiko Bench press programs

Hello there,
I got kinda newbie question. Before sometime (I came back to gym again training just before 6 month) I was using Sheikos program 29 and 30. What I noticed is, that they were extremelly effective on squat and deadlift, but for me they did nothing on bench press. I thought that Im just not talented on bench press (which is true:-)), but the think is- I found a Lot of people having absolutelly same situation. And finally one guy at T-Nation said that it sometimes happens to a lot of beginners that dont have good number on bench press, yet. Maybe some nervous system aspects I dont know. My question is for Master Coach Sheiko, if its a nonsense or he did saw that in some lifters. Maybe even if he got solution for these beginners.
Thank you.

Hello there,
I got kinda newbie question. Before sometime (I came back to gym again training just before 6 month) I was using Sheikos program 29 and 30. What I noticed is, that they were extremelly effective on squat and deadlift, but for me they did nothing on bench press. I thought that Im just not talented on bench press (which is true:-)), but the think is- I found a Lot of people having absolutelly same situation. And finally one guy at T-Nation said that it sometimes happens to a lot of beginners that dont have good number on bench press, yet. Maybe some nervous system aspects I dont know. My question is for Master Coach Sheiko, if its a nonsense or he did saw that in some lifters. Maybe even if he got solution for these beginners.
Thank you.

I find that an odd result as Sheiko templates have been amazing for bench for myself, any athletes I've trained and many others I know.

It might be easier to find an answer if we could see what your bench looks like. Post a video.

are there bench specific programs? or do you guys just use the bench programming of the standard sheiko's?

Hello there,
I just came back and dont have video of my personall technique. I will make it soon. Here are just some people having same problems.
http://tnation.t-nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding_strength/may_do_sheiko_but_bad_reviews_for_the_bench_mix_programs
http://forums.menshealth.com/topic/63643898178679230
http://tnation.t-nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding_strength/sheiko_bench_problem
I wanted to ask Coach himself about it.
Take care

Wow that's interesting that your bench didn't increase. I'm also new and I followed program 29 which was my first program and my bench went from 240 to 270. What assistance excercises did you do? I did 5 sets of 20 with DB flies, occasional push ups and dips.

What program did you do after 29? I'm curious as to which one to do next.

Typo.....5 sets of 10 on the flies!

Hello there,
I just came back and dont have video of my personall technique. I will make it soon. Here are just some people having same problems.
http://tnation.t-nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding_strength/may_do_sheiko_but_bad_reviews_for_the_bench_mix_programs
http://forums.menshealth.com/topic/63643898178679230
http://tnation.t-nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding_strength/sheiko_bench_problem
I wanted to ask Coach himself about it.
Take care

I think it's impossible to answer without seeing what's going on. Other than that, the programs aren't meant to be followed without thinking about them. Maybe the volume needs adjusting. Also, the template says "bench" but that doesn't mean you have to do the competition bench every day. You can swap that out for paused benches, other tempo variations, board presses, benches with chains, benches from pins, reverse grip benches, close grip, medium grip, etc. Which ones you select depends on what you need to work on. Two different people will have two different needs.

Take some videos and look at them carefully to help you plan out what you need to work on. I could see problems arising if there is no thought put into the process.

Hello there,
I just came back and dont have video of my personall technique. I will make it soon. Here are just some people having same problems.
http://tnation.t-nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding_strength/may_do_sheiko_but_bad_reviews_for_the_bench_mix_programs
http://forums.menshealth.com/topic/63643898178679230
http://tnation.t-nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding_strength/sheiko_bench_problem
I wanted to ask Coach himself about it.
Take care

I think the sources you used there speak for themselves... most of those guys don't seem to know what the hell they're talking about.

are there bench specific programs? or do you guys just use the bench programming of the standard sheiko's?

I just use the typical programming structure and select the bench variations I think are needed. Lately I've been doing a lot of paused benches (~4-5s) then accelerating it up. It's done wonders for my bar speed.

There are bench specific programs yes but they're definitely not beginner level.

There are bench specific programs yes but they're definitely not beginner level.

isn't Sheiko 37 the recommendation for beginners?  :)

Quote from: Bench Polkov link=topic=19.msg180#msg180 date=1402063075

There are bench specific programs yes but they're definitely not beginner level.

isn't Sheiko 37 the recommendation for beginners?  :)

It's not bench specific.

Where can i find professional level Sheiko's benchpress specific program.

Quote from: Bench Polkov link=topic=19.msg180#msg180 date=1402063075

There are bench specific programs yes but they're definitely not beginner level.

isn't Sheiko 37 the recommendation for beginners?  :)

i think im an intermediate, my max is 290 @ 177ish

i think im an intermediate, my max is 290 @ 177ish

Most people here would understand kilograms better than pounds.  135 @ 80 roughly